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  Demon stories

  by HiddenPimo in

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  2. experiences

  so as a child i was scared to death of the demons.

  in fact you may remember the wt and awake loved to put stories of these attacks in the articles.

  as a youth i loved to read books.

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  Nathan Natas

  It has been said that there is The Known, The Known Unknown, and The Unknown Unknown.

  There is also The Imaginary, which, in fairness, I guess could be part of The Unknown Unknown, except that there is not a single shred of objective evidence that demons exist. We have the testimony of the insane and people who can't seem to understand that they may not be objectice when they "figure out" what happened to them.

  I don't think Hollywood is doing anyone a service by encouraging beliefs in a spiritual realm, but humans have always enjoyed the adrenaline jolt of "safe fear."
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  Amber Scorah On National Public Radio

  by Lets Think in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  interesting interview.

  https://www.npr.org/programs/fresh-air/.

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  I am very often surprised by the inaccurate statements made by people who once were Jehovah's Witnesses.

  Amber was a "missionary" in China, so I would expect her to be well-versed in Watchtower doctrine, yet she says that JWs believe that after Armageddon only faithful JWs will be resurrected. This is not correcy; JWs are taught that EVERYONE will be resurrected after Armageddon so they could be given a fair chance to come to an accurate knowledge of the truth.

  I don't think I'm being unfair: Amber is articulate and seems to be comfortable being interviewed. So how could she miss a very basic doctrinal point?

  I've got her book and look forward to reading it, but I yearn for the next Barbara Grizzuti Harrison ("Visions of Glory: A History and a Memory of Jehovah's Witnesses" - 1978).
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  Attention Lurkers- the Paradise Resort Bus

  by stuckinamovement in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  imagine boarding a bus with your family for a long anticipated vacation.

  the destination is a place that is promised to be beautiful warm and sunny.

  as you are boarding the bus you are given a ticket stub with several paragraph's of fine print.

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  SIAM, I don't know how I missed this when it was originally posted, but it is one of those posts that make me go, "DAMN! I wish I wrote that!"

  It is something I might have expected from my friends Farkel or Terry Walstrom, both who are permanent examples of excellence in creative writing.

  I am going to have to check your other work.

  Rock on, Dude (or Dudette)!
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  What Do You Think About The Police?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  some people are very suspicious of the police.

  some folks value policemen and women.

  i’ve had experience with some.

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  They're GREAT! One of my favorite bands of all time!

  POLICE
  
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  Jehovah will lovingly Erase the Memories of Your Dead love Ones From Your Mind!foyarse e

  by The Bethelite in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know i would be miserable if i could remember all my dead relatives.

  all my dead children, parents all my worldly family members and friends, yes and the billions of other people too.

  all the people jehovah will be killing off in the years to come.

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  My experience has been that now, as we enter the second century of King Jesus' invisible imaginary rule, Jehovah is lovingly erasing all memories of the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society (WTB&TS) from my mind.

  HALLELUJAH, Brothas an' Sistas!

  (selah)
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  Debate

  by gabcol in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  back in the day, russell and rutherford would hold debates with other religious leaders.

  why has jehovah's witnesses stopped doing that?

  i think it would be very interesting to see how they would hold up on a debate now.

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  Nathan Natas

  It seems a little historical review might be helpful.

  Back in the days of Pastor Russell, Russell and his traveling representatives ("Pilgrims") would happily debate other religious leaders. Russell's message was something new and the popular religionists were not very skilled in debates.

  Year passed thus; eventually a new member of Russell's flock named J.F. Rutherford had the bright idea to debate a popular religionist of the time.

  Pastor Russell asked J. F. Rutherford to cancel the debate. "Judge" Rutherford was sure of his skill and ignored Russell's request.

  Rutherford got his ass served to him on a silver platter by the religionist.

  Since then, representatives of the WTB&TS are discouraged from participating in any debates, but there is no way of preventing the occasional prideful fool from taking the bait and re-living Rutherford's experience.
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  Post Your Favorite Misheard Lyrics

  by APieceOfShitNamedTate in

  1. social
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  @0:53 - "she got dishes, she got fish sticks and snacks/got it ready for the willy, got a chicken in the back.".

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krp_fqcmsva .

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  " 'scuse me while I kiss Lucy in the sky"
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  Frederick Franz, "Bible Scholar"

  by Quendi in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as some of you know by now, i spent sunday, 7 august, renewing ties with a dear friend.

  we're both disfellowshipped, the difference between us being he is seeking reinstatement and i am not.

  we got into some very spirited discussions on different bible topics and one of them was the value of the new world translation itself.

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  Yes!

  Fred Franz was a Bible Scholar and a Snappy Dresser!

  This is an INCONTROVERTIBLE fact!

  (selah)
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  Do You Think Disfellowshipping Is The Worst Thing About Jehovah’s Witnesses?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the longer i’m out the more i feel that disfellowshipping is cruel.

  i understand the organization tells parents to not even accept emails or texts from their disfellowshipped children.

  while i was a witness they tried to discourage families from association but there was some leeway if it was considered necessary business to interact.

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  Yes!

  That is not dead which can forever lie

  and in strange eons even death may die.
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  Do You For The Most Part Trust The News Media?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the media is very powerful.

  many news people just want to get a scoop even if their breaking story isn’t checked out for accuracy.

  some journalists are precise and double check whatever they are reporting.

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  Yes!

  I trust them to print lies and fake news along with photos of "talented" women.